Discussion in 'Beta Discussion' started by Vesuvius_SWIE, May 19, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Attacking enemy stations does not default to correct sector, had to manually select Ghazah I (default is II), causes yellow marker on map even though ships are present in alternate sector.

    Support ship behavior is ugh...

    Unable to repair damaged scanner with 2 points.

    The time lag between phases and movements of support ships makes using them very difficult without basically wasting a turn sitting still.

    Supports always do a buggy move before doing what they should, including hold position.

    A shot just ignored 2 full surfaces of shielding and directly damaged my hull.

    Need confirmation of orders to support ship such as button stays lit blue instead of blinks for a moment and no apparent change.

    Support orders mid-combat phase appear to do nothing.

    Support ships ordered to RTB take ~30 seconds to warp out once their time comes.
    Last edited: May 24, 2017
  2. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Just took a hit and went from 50+ hull after many repairs down to 11?!

    It was as if all the previous repairs were ignored and I was at the ~20 hp from when I started repairing after the last hit I took.

    -If this somehow can be reproduced... it sounds like a nasty bug -Vesuvius
    Last edited by a moderator: May 24, 2017
  3. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    So I brought a station sector to its knees single-handedly... but then I had to go to work. So much for all of that 130 control points >< Got a pile of XP though. XP is quite plentiful enough now. The limiting factor is by far the 22 hour per ship cooldown for an officer upgrade.

    -Did you destroy the station or nearly destroy it? -Vesuvius
  4. Vesuvius_SWIE

    Vesuvius_SWIE Administrator Staff Member

    This was supposedly implemented and used to be the case, where if you ran out of timer, it would save whatever you had just allocated instead of giving you nothing. I remember it was working like that, so if it isn't doing it anymore, then its something that needs to be fixed again.
  5. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Just watched control tick over towards Genari while I'm sitting in the sector in active combat.

    May have had something to do with being disconnected? My iPad hotspot has been flaky today.
  6. Vesuvius_SWIE

    Vesuvius_SWIE Administrator Staff Member

    If you can, write tickets for the support ship issues on Jira, these need to be corrected asap by the programmers.
  7. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Well since I don't like much in between :p I didn't get or test anything else.

    I have a confession to make. I've been cheating on Space Wars with another game :p

    The other game is kinda hard to play at work with limited hardware and connection and is a full loot full world pvp game, so I was taking a break today and decided to do some SW testing, which is MUCH more forgiving with the previously mentioned limitations.

    I'll have to come back to my random chatter and notes and do some deep dives into the issues I think I can figure out.

    The bypassing shields and repair issues that I can't RATE 'Rapid Action Trial and Error' (my own little thing, maybe someone else uses the term, I dunno) test/reproduce are going to be tricky if not impossible. I've seen each of them happen only once.

    Other stuff like initiative should be easy for me to check out once I have some time. I have a pile of XP now after battling in Ghazah for over an hour non-stop taking out many Class V-VIII with my favorite M3.
  8. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Absolutely do not make it the 'enter' key. You don't want someone trying to engage or send/close chat and accidentally ending their turn in a catastrophic position.

    We already have WASD + a few others, and I'm not sure what Q and E do, though I have seen some 'orbit' functions in the bindings list.

    I think a key that is away from other keys and accidental press would be best.

    P for Pass makes sense, perhaps U for end turn, away from other keys, with 'end' and 'pass' not adjacent to each other either.
  9. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Nope, Had to call it quits before going after the station :p Genari holds the sector for now.

    Station's aren't all that important as sources of large chunks of XP anymore with the Director now sending up to Class VIII with an appropriate attacker on the field.
  10. Vesuvius_SWIE

    Vesuvius_SWIE Administrator Staff Member

    Perhaps the E key for ending turn/allocation makes sense, there are no keys bound with E at this point.
    There's going to be a station defensive upgrade soon enough, there's an AI situation that makes them a bit weaker than they should be.
    I looked at the logs, you Xeen were taking on as many as 6 AI ships at a time -- pretty impressive, though I'm sure an experienced human target will give you a harder time :)
  11. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    I wouldnt do E for the simple fact of it being close to the common WASD movement keys.

    Which key isn't that important so long as the game function can be opted to a key, users can then pick.
  12. AmishJoe

    AmishJoe Member

    So I think I like the new update that shows more enemy info. In one way it is helpful, but in another way I enjoyed not knowing. On the other hand I don't like not having my shot percentage displayed, is that an error?
  13. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    I still see my hit chance %, I don't see additional information though.. ? Or am I not looking in the right place?

    Edit: Not anymore.
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  14. Vesuvius_SWIE

    Vesuvius_SWIE Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, the new build gives the enemy hull/engine stats, but the hit % has gone missing. Will report.
    AmishJoe likes this.
  15. Vesuvius_SWIE

    Vesuvius_SWIE Administrator Staff Member

    There seems to be a bug where if your spawn-based space station is under attack, and its under attack by a human player, you cannot warp out when you reach the border. I've seen it happen before, and it happened to me again with Amishjoe.

    Also I've noticed the observer mode doesn't work anymore (ie when you wait for your queue in a battle map you see the allied movements, but right now its doing the screensaver thing).
  16. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Was this new build just released? I couldn't see hull and could see hit% while on my laptop at work earlier today :p

    Must have been. The Support Ship controls were updated and now show which selection is made.

    -Yup, a new build with the ship stats was made, but they forgot to put the hit% back in. -Vesuvius

    Was confusing me how it got slipped in half way during the day in the middle of the week.
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  17. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Seeing only +5 Initiative on the Mendi now from both captain ranks. Working as expected I believe. May have had something to do with relogging/first purchase.

    Seeing exact hull values makes things so much easier with managing reactor explosions and last hits. I had just gotten used to identifying the damage states (visually) and counting hits/dmg on key ships too :p

    "Need confirmation of orders to support ship such as button stays lit blue instead of blinks for a moment and no apparent change."

    Was the above planned already (and just not implemented before I said something) or added in because I asked for it? Let's go with you thought it was a good feature and wanted to put in something the testers/players wanted.

    -Mlocke requested it first :) -Vesuvius

    Glad to see order confirmation.
    Last edited by a moderator: May 25, 2017
  18. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Sol Leadership Rank 1 (and likely all ranks) is not working. Should be +10% xp gain x1, 2, or 3 ranks.

    Before applying, hits gave 12 xp and a kill gave 152 xp on a particular ship.
    After applying, same yield vs. same target. Expected to gain ~13 and ~167 respectively.

    -Reported on Jira
  19. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member

    Suggestion 'Bonus for Capturing Territory':

    Objective: To promote sustained combat, encouraging continuous field presence to an end point of territory capture and reward all participants based on their efforts/proportional contributions to the fight.

    Provide an XP/other Bonus (Officer upgrade time credits?) for capturing territory weighted by size of territory, total number of ships destroyed on both sides regardless of who killed what (shift focus away from 'last hit', include stations but not light defense structures/mines), number of turns spent in the battle continuously up until the point of capture (if you leave and return, you forfeit your streak and start over), damage dealt since last arrival, damage sustained since last arrival, and anything else of value you might want to throw in (scouting/first contact of enemy unit, repairs, etc.).

    Example: a 130 x 130 sector is worth a base 13 hours of Officer Time Credit or 13,000 XP Bonus, which gains a multiplier of 1% x the number of ships Class Levels destroyed in combat. So if 250 total ship class points (and maybe a station worth a modified amount of credits depending on class x2, x3, x4?) were destroyed, it becomes 13 hours or 13000xp x 2.5 = 32.5 or 32500. That territory bounty is then split to all participants according to the other criteria, how long they remained on the field from last arrival to capture, damage dealt (not kills scored), damage sustained, etc.

    10 participants may have 1 or 2 Ace players that get around 15% of the bounty each (slightly greater than the expected even split of 10% per player, yielding 4-5 hours off of their upgrade timer or 4-5000 bonus xp) with the rest of the participants on the attacking side gaining remaining shares proportional to their contributions.

    Death is penalized by the loss of your ship and crew as well as restarting your field-presence streak or perhaps all of your contributions such as being present for class-kill bonuses, repairs, damage sustained, etc. (unless you are using Fleet command and have another ship remaining on the field, but you cannot refill your ranks without leaving and losing the streak).

    Caution: This is all assuming people play as intended. Measures would have to be taken to ensure that players do not show up for a fight and sit idle for free rewards. This will be a problem in the game either way. People will show up and do nothing, dragging out a turn timer simply to hinder or grief other players/opposing faction. There will always be trolls.

    -At this point need to keep it simple once its implemented, which will likely be XP bonus on capture modified by capture points of map, with bonuses to maps with stations. -Vesuvius

    Definitely a future plan. Wasn't expecting this one soon.
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  20. Xeen Dread

    Xeen Dread Active Member


    Have scanners tie in to accuracy rating of weapons.

    If a target is in visible range, +5% chance to hit, if a target is in scan range outside of 4 hex, +2.5% chance to hit, if detected but no longer in scan range/scanners powered down or being scanned by an ally or behind an obstacle, no bonus.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page