*** CLOSED BETA UPDATES & DISCUSSION/BUG REPORTS II ***

The real update.

-Yup, you can actually type Pass now lol -Vesuvius

 

- When you lose a ship, you automatically gain 350 XP.
its not a problem with the honorable death passive? cause i dont have the 5200*0.2 honor point back after my death and yes i have 210 (3 hit) + ~300

- XP gains in PVP combat is somewhat higher than normal.
PVP on the map or battle or other mode? (i dont try battle and other mode because i play when you sleep ^^)

-PVP on the galaxy map. When you play against human, it is more XP than AI. -Vesuvius

i see 2 bug last night :
- when you kill a ship with a counter attack some time it doesnt count immediatlly (you dont have the new popup with the resultat of the fight) and you dont have a transit for new ship but some time a new ship come and you dont see it xD
-If you win a region, then you'd get the resultant popup of the fight, or when you leave the area. But there are still some bugs in it, and its inconsistent. -Vesuvius

he attack your ship you can counter attack but you cant see it so you cant evade or attack it during your turn. if you go near the border of the map you leave the map and comme back you can kill the spyship^^ i will try to make a video about this bug because i think its not really understandable...

-another random bug during the transit phase i see the exacte hex where the enemy ship will spawn and, if i have the init, i can go and attack him before he can react xD
-Yeah, exploitation bugs like this will need to fix, but also right now the enemy AI spawns in the same areas, when they aren't supposed to. So that needs fixing. -Vesuvius

can i ask tester when they log in game to say "hello" and when they leave to say "bye?"
or there is a possibility to have a disconnect information in the off topic?
-You can definitely try to reach another player, but it seems that many new testers don't know or see the chat option. -Vesuvius

 

Not sure if this is intended.

I was fighting in an Agile flyer 3 last night. I got into it and took a bunch of damage. I ended up winning the fight but needed repairs. I warped out and instead of going to a dock I just warped into a zone with an enemy in it. I then went straight into allocation mode and could use two repair points. Then I warped out immediately after repair and then back into the same zone. At that point I was again able to get two repair turns and warp out. I was able to completely heal my ship rather quickly using this technique. Like I said, not sure if this is intended.

-This definitely can become an abuse, though over time if you just wait in galaxy transit, you get repaired (around 2 repairs per minute). Its something to be considered in the long run, but in major battles with a bunch of players it could be to the abuser's detriment. -Vesuvius

Kalmor

 

I mean, if you want real abuse, just leave the sector, press ESC, press Quit, launch again. It's a lot faster, repairs everything, and you can warp anywhere

-For now that is, for the internal beta. In the maingame, your ship will remain in place, and get taken over by AI (this helps against accidental disconnection and rage quitting). -Vesuvius

 

dmg 10 missile unusable error 219 (no enouth energy)+ error 100(general error)

-Which missile system is this? -Vesuvius

GSEFW-4 on class 2 or class 3 its the same

 

Leviathan:
Allocation Phase: 48 points left during allocation, estimated movement is 4.
Combat Phase: Estimated movement brought down to 3 (probably because it's rounding up or down), my turn arrives, movement brought down to 1 before I even do anything.

All ships are affected. Movement seems to be considerably reduced after a certain amount of points are used.

 

Also the fire/counterfire bug is still with us. I reproduced it again with hunter. I am a orchis 4, he is leviathan. I set counterfire at allocation, during combat fire at him, he counterfires, I counterfire. Not sure if it is this combination of ships or what. Second hunters movement bug as well.

-That sucks, I was hoping the counterfire bug was squashed for good. It seems to have been reinstated with the new build. -Vesuvius

 

if you dont have the init (you are not the first to play) you loose 1 mouvement at each other player turn and you loose 1 at stat of your turn...
i try to report it las time but i dont think it was understand ^^

-If that is so, where the next player loses a movement point, its a new bug allright; it wasn't there before. Whatever your place in the turn order, you shouldn't lose any movement points on your turn. -Vesuvius

i got an error when i try to give at my captain the honorable death II. the error say the skill was not disponible. i log out and log in and the skill was taken on my capitan (now need de loose a big ship to try it :s)

 

So you're telling me that the bigger your ship (and therefore slower with lower initiative) the more useless it gets?
That doesn't make a lot of sense. Players shouldn't lose 1 movement point for not being first to play, and then lose another point per player that are in front of them on the initiative scale, except for the first one. A Leviathan has a max initiative of 9, without anything added on. By default, it loses 1 movement, making it go down to 8 base. I agree that a capital ship shouldn't move very fast, but you're talking about forcing a play to sit there while everyone around takes chunks of them away, and they can't do anything about it. With 1 movement point, there's absolutely nothing you can do, no matter what. You can charge half of the front weapons, half of the back weapons, it wouldn't matter. They would either miss, or be absorbed by shields. Side weapons? You only have 1 on each side. Charge all front? Well, you're not going first, so they're gonna move out of the way, most likely behind you, which means that you'll spend a turn doing nothing.

Tl;dr - Losing movement during my turn, can't do anything that turn but take damage.

-Yeah, definitely a bug if this is happening. You aren't supposed to lose movement points. Can anyone do a screenshot series of it so I can 'prove' it to the programmers? -Vesuvius

 

That doesn't make a lot of sense

that why we need to report it correctly for me its a big bug and it wasnt like that the 2 first day i play in the alpha^^ but i was perhaps all the time the first init :s

 

today i try the firbolt II class 3 with damage boost II and some other crew skill :
the passive of the firebole doesnt work or i dont understand it (sensor +1 range passive so without paying anithing i can have range 5?)
the damage boost II doesnt work on the missile (GSEFW-4C) because in base there is 4 dmg damage boost II give +2 total 6 and i make only 5 dmg maximum with 1 missile (ty to vahlalla for the information of the dmg done)

-Most of the 'ship skills' aren't implemented yet, as far as I know. However, if damage boost I works, II doesn't post on the skills thread about this -Vesuvius

 

in fact dmg are fix or there is a part of random that add or minus dmg?
exemple my ship have beam 5 and it make 6 dmg to the shield + 1 to the hull :s

-All beam weapons have range bonuses -- +1 damage minimum at 1-2 hex range for most beam weapons. Visit the Sol/Genari weapons thread. -Vesuvius

 

I just tried to respec my engineer, I paid for the respect, it cleared the skills but only returned 2 skill points. My engineer is elite level.

-That is a known bug, where you lose one or two skill points when you respec. Must be fixed. -Vesuvius

 

-All beam weapons have range bonuses -- +1 damage minimum at 1-2 hex range for most beam weapons. Visit the Sol/Genari weapons thread. -Vesuvius
thx i havent see all the "old" treahd i need to read them

how is calculat the experience/honor/leadership gain during a fight?

i have actually gain versus class 3 AI ship with my class 4 ship with missile dmg 4 or 5:

bengbu 2+2 first turn and 2+20(kill) second turn
bengbu II 2+2 first turn and 2+21(kill) second turn
bengbu III 3+3 first turn and 22(kill) second turn
bengbu IV 4+4 first turn and 28(kill) second turn

mendi 7+39(kill)
mendi II 6+6 and 30
mendi III 7 + 42
mendi IV 7 + 42

orchis 7+40
orchis II 5 +31
orchis III
orchis IV 7+42

i dont remember if the attack kill was allways range 1 or range 2 but not longer

-The calculations for XP at least, all seem to be about right. Kill XP against AI = 10% of ship XP value. Damage XP = proportion % to enemy ship, but capped at 20%.
Eventually there will be an in-game ship viewer for all ships, but you can always reference what the XP value of a ship is here:
http://www.spacewars.com/the-shipyard
-Vesuvius

 

Ok had a problem here I could see the last enemy but xeen the other player could not see the enemy ship right next to him.

 

I see everything he sees except that one enemy with the yellow ring right beside me. I asked him earlier in the fight if he was shooting at me lol (the misses were in my direction).

Read the chat in the screenshot

 

for me the problem actually is the time pass for a kill and the gain of this kill.
you need more time to kill a bengbu and he give you less xp not sure its really balance but i cant juge all so i just say there is perhaps a little problem

-Bengbu is the lowest XP value compared to Mendi/Orchis because it has lowest maneuverability and offense combo, just good armor. XP value is generally attack value X offense value. -Vesuvius

 

i try the new ai system with 3 class3 and 1 class 2 versus my class 6 its more fun and fast only big problem is th mouvement bug... if you are the last in init you loose all your mouvement or near xD

with my class 6 i try to assault a class 2 to control him but as you sai befor it doesnt work when the crew are at 0 i dont take control but the enemy ship cant do anything else than add crew (from where?)

i just see that :

- Officer upgrades do not have combat prerequisites and cost less

and i laught xD when i see the cost on a class VI its crazy200/240/280/320/400 total : 1440/crew
*5 = 7200 for a ship that cost already 5200 and the crew cost is not refund when the ship is destroy its hard

-This cost is supposed to be high, as officer skills are very significant in combat. The few that currently work you can see how valuable they are. -Vesuvius